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USDA license - 2005/10/11 21:49
im like 14, but im going to raise hedgehogs soon... u cant get a license till ur 18, do i register it in my parents name, or do i just not need one to sell the hedgehogs??? im very confused
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iwannahedgehog
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Re:USDA license - 2005/10/11 22:15
Can nobody help me???
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Re:USDA license - 2005/10/11 23:40
My understanding is that you're just now looking at getting a pet hedgehog, and you're asking a lot of really good questions for getting started. Breeding is a HUGE comittment of time, energy, money, and emotions. You can lose moms, babies, and what seems like your mind some days, and if you do it right, it will be a miracle if you even break even financially. I would suggest that you get your hedgehog, and enjoy it as a pet for at least a year before you seriously consider breeding. Male hedgehogs can breed until they're quite old, so that would be your best choice if you're wanting to have the option of breeding your first pet if you do decide to breed. Stick around, ask lots of questions, read everything you can find, ask questions about that, and in a year take a look at how you feel about everything you have learned about breeding and about hedgehogs. You might also ask some of the younger breeders who are a part of this website how they feel about breeding at a younger age, and the challenges that are involved. I know both of them have had tough times with juggling schedules and managing finances, and they might have some good input for you too. Hope this helps!
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Re:USDA license - 2005/10/12 16:07
i already know about the breeding and the actual breed, cuz i have helped my grandfather with them. i just need to know about the license
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Re:USDA license - 2005/10/12 16:49
iwannahedgehog,
Breeding hedgehogs is a difficult job. Some nights I am waking up 3 or 4 times to check on or feed babies or medicate adults. Vet bills can run you upward of $2000 in some emergency situations. Breeding is not a good way to make money. If you are looking for a little extra cash, a job at a movie theater or McDonalds pays much better when you consider the time you would put into breeding.
If you are looking for an animal to breed because you think babies are fun, you should rethink your reasoning.
Kelly Sosik-Hamor
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Re:USDA license - 2005/10/12 18:30
note from mod- One post has been removed from this thread due to failure to abide by forum rules.
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iwannahedgehog
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Re:USDA license - 2005/10/13 15:55
I LOVE HEDGEHOGS... JUST NOT THE HEDGEHOG FANATICS!!!!!! THEY CAN GET PRETTY ANNOYING AND TOUCHY JUST LIKE SOME PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM!!!!
THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY 
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PogStar
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Re:USDA license - 2005/10/13 19:34
IWanna-- I understand that it is frustrating for you to be told that you shouldn't do something you are really wanting to. You have to understand that most of us on this forum have seen so very many people who think they want to breed hedgehogs come and go that we long ago lost count. Some of them were in it for the money, some of them because hedgehogs are cute, some kids with good intentions who had no idea what they were really getting into, some adults who had no idea. Very, VERY few actually make it and turn into decent breeders. A few end up not really adding to the community, but at least not making it worse. A few more stick around and breed poorly, sell poorly, and/or give horrible advice that often the rest of us end up trying to save the hedgehog from, or rescuing the hedgehog sold to a new owner that was given no clue what to expect by one of these breeders. We are just so tired of that. We're tired of the sick hedgehogs, the dead hedgehogs, the mean hedgehogs from breeders who don't think about temperament.... you get the point. We LOVE the idea of new, responsible breeders, and for the most part don't care what age they are, if they can show a level of maturity. But quite honestly, most of us don't have a great deal of patience for people who already know it all, because we have yet to find anyone who does. Thats why we started this site. To share information between ourselves and with others, to try to make things better for hedgehogs and their people.
Two of our valued breeders on this site are teens, and I have gladly given or sold animals to both of them, and I have no hesitation referring customers to them or buying from them myself. I'm sure both of them got frustrated sometimes when existing breeders started asking them pointed questions. The difference is, they had the maturity to understand that our concern was for them and the hedgehogs they might own or raise, and they talked to us, and listened to us, and in turn we gave them all the help we could, and continue to do so.
If you want to stick around and learn and share with us, you're welcome to. I think I can speak for most of us when I say that I have LOVED working with "our girls", enjoy their involvement, and have come to care about them deeply. However, I think I can also speak for all the administrators and mods when I say that most of us are parents, aunts, uncles, etc, in our off computer lives, and NONE of us has the time or inclination to deal with childish tantrums and games here as well. Its your choice.
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Hedgie lover
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/21 16:23
Where do i get licences for hedgehogs and breeders licence so i can sell the babys that just showed up on day.
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/21 19:12
Hedgie lover wrote:
Where do i get licences for hedgehogs and breeders licence so i can sell the babys that just showed up on day.
They just showed up? Did you end up with a pregnant hedgehog from a pet store?
I think you can get a 1 time exemption by calling the USDA. You can only get it once, but you do need it if you plan to sell the litter.
-K
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/22 05:24
How does that all work now that breeders with less then 4 females can breed without licenses?? do they have to get a thing every time they have a litter?? sorry I'm just curious because I know with the rules changing with the USDA I didn't know if that got changed as well...
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/22 16:04
illinidairychic wrote:
How does that all work now that breeders with less then 4 females can breed without licenses?? do they have to get a thing every time they have a litter?? sorry I'm just curious because I know with the rules changing with the USDA I didn't know if that got changed as well...
I guess you don't need to do it anymore. I didn't think about that.
I really liked things better the way they used to be.
-K
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/25 15:25
Yeah but how do i get ahold of them?
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/25 18:35
www.usda.gov/aphis I believe is the web site for the USDA, look for the region that you are located in and find the headquarters for your region.
As far as how do you get started breeding, read the articles here on this site. Read the current threads that have been posted. Once you have a general idea what is going on, ask specific questions about what you have read. The answer to "how do I start breeding" is "do your research". Our articles section is a VERY good place to start your research.
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/25 18:47
 Geez---this whole thread has really opened a can of worms, hasn't it? 
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/25 21:34
thanks for your help i know i won't ever stop learning but i've been researching for a year to make sure everything goes ok. I HAVE MY FEMALE HEDGEHOG ON THE WAY IN 6 TO 8 WEEKS she had a litter so she couldn't travel.
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/25 22:23
You do need to give her a few months off after the hoglets are weaned before you breed her again. You're not going to want to stress her out with a new environment AND being preggers.
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Re:USDA license - 2006/04/27 00:37
NO I WON'T thanks bye
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Re:USDA license - 2007/01/20 08:50
I talked, again, with the USDA a few days ago and if you have, simply put, 3 or fewer breeding age females then you are NOT required to obtain a USDA license. If you have 4 or more you ARE. I was told this went into effect about a year and a half ago because of one-time breeders such as someone who bought a hedgie from a petshop and it turned out she was pregnant so needed to sell the babies. It's also to allow the small time (hobby) breeders who don't breed very often to breed and sell as a hobbist. However, you do need to check with your county to see if you need a zoning permit. Hope this helps...~~Tree
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Re:USDA license - 2007/01/20 09:03
Also, you need to contact state and federal to see if you need licenses with them. In SC you do not need these licenses according to the offices I spoke with. You'll need to contact the county you live in and find out if there are any regulations on hedgehogs. I believe the department is called "Animal Services." You may be required to obtain a DBA or business license if you're selling the hedgies from your residence. Cover all your bases because it's better to be safe than sorry. Thanks Becca for helping ME out on this topic. ~~Tree
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Re:USDA license - 2007/01/22 22:21
I guess I'll have to hurry up and get my license then! I thought that it was three breeding females, not 3 breeding age females. Oops. I have 2 breeding age and 3 breeding females. I'll start work on getting the licensing I need tomorrow!
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Re:USDA license - 2007/01/23 07:41
I have spoken MANY MANY times to the Eastern US office and it is 3 breeding females. Good luck getting them to send you out the paperwork...I have been trying for almost a year (called at least 5 times, emailed, etc) still no paperwork! UGH!!!!
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Re:USDA license - 2007/01/23 08:00
I just spoke with the USDA (Eastern division) and spoke with THE woman you have to talk to and she said if you have fewer than 4 breeding age females you are all right and do not need a USDA license. I had her clarify. She said 1-3 breeding age females = no USDA license. 4 or more breeding age females = USDA license. She said it didn't matter whether you were breeding the females or not. If they are breeding age then they are counted. The woman I talked to is Lisa Mackerberry (sp?) and she said when I'm ready to have more than 3 breeding age females for me to call 919-855-7100 to request a pre-license packet that also contains the regulations book with it. She said once I fill out the form and mail it in that it is SHE I will talk to about setting up an inspection and all that jazz. If anyone would like to verify, I have her phone number. ~~Tree
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Re:USDA license - 2007/01/23 08:11
Okay. I just got off the phone and I am supposed to receive my packet within 5-7 days. If I don't receive the packet I am to call back and talk to a man named Jeremy. When I called 919-855-7100, I was transferred to the correct office and that number is 919-855-7104. The correct spelling of Lisa is:
Dr. Lisa Macelberry and she is the one who comes out and does the inspection and all. Good luck everyone and I'll let everyone know if I receive my packet and all that comes along with it. ~~Tree
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Re:USDA license - 2007/01/23 12:01
She said 1-3 breeding age females = no USDA license. 4 or more breeding age females = USDA license.
This is correct. I have copies of the regs. Email me if you would like a copy-they make great bedtime reading
Also-the rules are different if you are a pet store or you breed other mammals too.
Ann
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