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taurine - 2007/09/09 11:21 Local coffee shop owner told me that our high school has banned a new energy drink called "monster" that she is currently selling. I looked at the can, I don't even recall the caffeine content for Taurine 1000% jumped out at me.

Is this the same taurine that is in cat foods? Dummy me, I thought it was some kind of nutrient for a nice healthy coat. Turns out it's an amino acid, and I always thought they were a good thing (in moderation, 1000% of anything can't be good). I did a little internet research and found this:

Taurine:
Is one of the lesser known amino acids. It plays several important roles in the body. It may help with reactive oxygen, respiratory burst, and there is some evidence it is an inhibitory neurotransmitter in the central nervous system. It has also been linked to other metabolic functions but it is not clear. Why is it not clear, because it hasn't been fully researched and much of what it does is still unknown. There is a lot of research going into Taurine right now. There is is a lot of research into the effects of Taurine on the hearts functions. Obviously many users have also noticed a stimulating effect from this amino acid as it is included in most energy drinks, but since it hasn't been proof it must mean it does nothing... Nope it just means it hasn't been studied closely by the FDA, it is currently under investigation in parts of the world and some drinks with it have been banned in France, Sweden, and Iceland.

Anyone want to share opinions on this ingredient in hedgie diets?
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Re:taurine - 2007/09/09 11:31 Energy drinks have been the subject of a lot of rumors and urban legends. This one mentions taurine specifically. I would not worry about it.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/potables/redbull.asp

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Re:taurine - 2007/09/09 13:01 I asked my boyfriend's brother about it when I noticed it in my cats food and realized it was what was touted as the booster in red bull.

What he said was that Taurine is an amino acid with VERY mild stimulant properties and that it was really the high levels of caffine and sugar in these drinks that cause the "jolt." He said that taurine is an amino acid that as a mild stimulant is believed to aid in digestion and other metabolic functions which is why it is in the cat's food.
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Re:taurine - 2007/09/09 13:30 thank you Ava's mom. So we now know a small about of taurine is beneficial, and regardless of urban legends I still feel that 1000% of anything can not be good for you.
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Re:taurine - 2007/09/09 16:01 I still feel that 1000% of anything can not be good for you.
Except for chocolate-you know how small they make candy bars nowadays? I could probably eat 1000%
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Re:taurine - 2007/09/09 21:42 I believe that there were studies done that showed taurine to be beneficial to cats in some way. I remember discussing it with a friend (vet's wife) awhile back, but don't recall the specifics.

Don't know if it would be beneficial to hedgehogs, but I don't see how having a little of it in their food would be a bad thing.

As fir it being in all the energy drinks, I think Taurine is the newest and coolest legal stimulant and all the drinks are competing to see who can have the most/ be the coolest.

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Re:taurine - 2007/09/09 23:00 Ah I get it: Taurine -> Taurus -> Bull -> Red Bull Jessica
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Re:taurine - 2007/10/05 00:12 I'm a newbie and just started reading the forum for information.

I have cats and tried to give them a biologically raw diet several years ago. Taurine was an important item to make sure was in their food.

I was amazed to find that Taurine is found in the heart muscles. So consequently I made sure I made some patties with gizzards and chicken hearts. I finally gave up because grinding the organ meats was such a bloody process, and it smelled yucky.

So to find out it is good for your heart and is found in animal heart tissue makes sense.

As you all must have knowledge of this, I'm just a novice. I assumed the reason cat food was recommended for hedgehogs was because it had the taurine they seem to need more of - otherwise you all might be using a puppy chow food instead.

This is a great forum. I'm glad to find such good info here.

Thanx - cyn (c:
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Re:taurine - 2007/10/05 14:26 otherwise you all might be using a puppy chow food instead.

A big problem with dog food is the size of the kibble rather than the ingredients. If its not broken up it could cause a choking problem depending on the shape/size.
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Re:taurine - 2008/04/01 08:18 taurine, while it is often classified as an amino acid, is not technically a true amino acid because it is missing a carboxyl group. Without that group it can't be incorporated into proteins because there is no way to hook on the next amino acid. Its main function is in bile. It forms a complex with cholic acid increasing the efficiency with which your body can absorb lipids. The reason that it is necessary for cats is because they don't naturally produce it and if they can't get it through their diet they can't absorb fat well. Other than that I don't think the effects of taurine are well documented. Now you got me curious.

I did notice that taurine was added to L'Avian hedgehog food. Does anyone use this brand? Do you like it? I hope so because I bought some before I read this post.

ps. I'm new to the forums. I don't even have my hedgehog yet. Please excuse my sciencey outburst.

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Re:taurine - 2008/04/01 11:44 CThogs wrote:
otherwise you all might be using a puppy chow food instead.

A big problem with dog food is the size of the kibble rather than the ingredients. If its not broken up it could cause a choking problem depending on the shape/size.


Not only that, but the nutritional requirements for dogs and cats are different. I would think too that because hedgehogs are insectivors and are eating less filler than meat source, their diet may be closer to a cat than a dog.
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